As this is the conclusion of the focus group, out of respect to the participants and the overall process, please make sure to listen to part one before downloading this episode

What does it mean for White men to define their unfiltered experience, living in the US in the '20s?

Loran and Jenny host a focus group with four White men who share their experiences of race and racism in the US today. When was the last time you heard a White man talk about what it means to be a White man without supremacy or shame?

Are any stereotypes or tropes outdated?

What are we getting right?

What are we getting wrong?

In this second episode, everyone jumps into the same conversation together. From COVID to incarceration, to wedding invites and ass-less chaps the White male participants cover a lot of ground.

This conversation is part of a larger approach this season to talk about race at the intersection of gender. Please also make sure to check out Episode Two with Breakthrough for Men founder, Fred Jealous and Episode 8 "Beyond White Supremacy: Healing White Men as form of Violence Prevention and Harm Reduction."

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In the episode Loran asks the men to interpret the data from the Center for Disease Control COVID tracker which may be found here.

Loran fact checks current incarceration figures with data published in 2003.

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TRANSCRIPT DISCLAIMER: The following transcript was auto-transcribed by Descript software. It will be updated and cleaned in the coming weeks. Please reach out if you would like a transcript in the interim.

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